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So Sylvia, Zoe and I just got back, enduring the awfulness of Ryanair (never again - by the time we finished paying for extras there was basically no price difference between them and a full fare airline, and the experience was just deeply unpleasant - I now firmly believe that flying with them is false economy and too stressful to boot) from a few days in the Italian Alps, where we were after an introduction to the interesting and exciting looking sport of the via ferratas.

Via ferratas were originally routes put up to help alpine troops, many of whom were unwilling conscripts, fight in the front line in the WWI front between the Austro-Hungarian Empire and Italy. Much the same sort of stuff went on as in the western front in terms of trench warfare, but this was at 9,000 feet and they needed a way of getting troops to and from the front line. This tended to involve fixing ropes, ladders and bridges to the cliffs, as well as digging tunnels through the limestone. People died in their thousands, not just from enemy action, but from harsh conditions in the mountains, where they would freeze to death, fall to their doom, or perish in avalanches.

Today many of the original via ferratas are open as routes for summer tourists, bringing money to the economy of a very remote area which normally functions as a ski resort. Rickety WWI wooden ladders and ropes have been replaced with steel, and new routes have been developed. Still, using them is not for the faint hearted, and I can only imagine how utterly terrified some of the WWI conscripts must have been.

Anyway, we took some photographs. Here are a selection:


After a drive in our rental car (a little diesel - first time I have driven a diesel, and it was a manual, and this was on Alpine roads with steep gradients and constant hairpin bends - I felt like I was changing gear constantly, which I more or less was), we arrived in the town of Corvara. The werather was very rainy, and on our previous holiday in Utah this would have meant flash floods. Not so here though - the wooded slopes can absorb the water and many of the clouds were below us. However, we had to keep an eye out for thunderstorms. Via ferratas go to peaks, and do a good impression of being lightning conductors. Being on one in a thunderstorm is pretty suicidal.



A bit of a rest, some gear shopping and it was onto a cable car for our first, and very straightforward ferrata - VF Lagazuoi. This starts near the cable car station and takes you through some preserved WWI trenches before descending hundreds of metres inside the mountain in a network of tunnels built by the Italians to supply their trenches, and to try to undermine the Austrian positions and blow them off the side of the mountain with surprise high explosives. It's a big network, and without the signs inside them it would be easy to get lost in this 3D maze. I kept getting visions of Moria from the Lord of the Rings!


Occasionally there is a window to the outside, like this one. They were either built to dispose of rubble (and carefully disguised - if the enemy saw the portals they would train their artillery on them), or as artillery placements. Much of the route is pitch dark though, and a head torch is essential.



Eventually you drop out the bottom, and can wander round the base of the fortifications, which is still equipped as a via ferrata in places. Here is Zoe hanging on her VF kit.



The next day saw us heading up onto the Sella Massif to do VF Piz Da Lech. This involved a long ride on a gondola, starting from around 5,000 feet near our hotel, followed by the chairlift up to around 8,000 feet, where I still had 3G on my phone and was able to post to Twitter and Facebook!



Many of the chairlifts, gondalas and cable cars/aerial trams are kept running in the summer for hikers, ferraterists and other extreme sport participants...



...such as these guys. We hung around and watched them take off into the void. I know I have a habit of saying, "I will never do that", and then find myself doing it a few years later (like with canyoneering, climbing and via ferratas), but I really will never do this! It looks epically scary and dangerous.



A short hike took us to the start of the ferrata. You can just see the cable in the background. From here it's simple - clip yourself to the cable and follow it. You have a lanyard which has two carabiners, so that at least one is always clipped on. Having said that, much of the protection awarded by the cable is purely psychological...



...here are Sylvia and Zoe, on a section near the start. Every few metres the cable is attached to the rock with a peg. At each peg you are "safe" - it marks how far you can fall. The problem is that on these climbing pitches, a lot of the pegs are near ground level, rendering the protection rather moot. Although the climbs are made easier by the ubiquity of the cable, which you can haul yourself up with, you're basically free-solo aid climbing for much of the time. The consequences of a fall are the same - you hit the ground before your protection starts to deploy and break both your legs. Even if you only fall as far as an intermediate peg, the fall can be as high as factor 5 (the highest fall I've had in a climbing gym is about 0.7, and that shook me up). In these situations, the kit is designed to make the fall merely survivable, rather than safe.

You basically don't fall, ever.



Here's a group catching us up. A fall here would be nice and bouncy!



Some of the pegs are ... unusual! I'm not sure what this is all about!



Here's zoe near the top of a pitch. She has just clipped one of her 'biners to the peg, and is therefore safe, for the time being...



And here is Sylvia on a traverse section. Falls here are much less serious, because you won't slide down the wire. Could still hurt though.



Finally, after a disturbingly exposed section at the top of a long ladder, where you have to stick your butt right out into space (with the cloud tops hundreds of feet below you), we reached the top. On the aforementioned section Zoe briefly developed religion, and by the time she'd finished the move this had turned to polytheism because she decided one god was insufficient for how frightened she felt! Here she is on the peak in her triumph though. The way down is easier - there is a hiker trail that is considerably less death-defying.



The view from the top, over towards Piz Boe, was stunning, when we could see it between the clouds!



Here is Sylvia looking suitably grizzled near the top.



The next day we took the cable car up to Belvedere peak, to take on Via Ferrata Delle Trincee. This was the hardest one on our itinerary, and we ended up bailing on a steep section at the start. Nice view across to Marmolada and the Val Di Fassa though.



Here is the start of the ferrata, with some other ferratarists on it. I felt quite happy about doing this, but my enthusiasm was not shared by the other members of the group, who were uncomfortable with the level of climbing required...



...so we started to deploy "Plan B". I started up the ferrata, dragging my climbing rope behind me. About 15 metres in the air, I set up a hanging belay. I literally dangled from the cable and also set it up as the anchor for a top rope. The intention was to use it to provide extra security for the other two, and even haul them up if need-be. We did get as far as the actual hauling (this was an interesting experience while dangling from a steel cable half way up a cliff, but I am very pleased that I was able to rig the necessary ropework to do this, and safely), but there was less enthusiasm to continue this activity from below, and so I lowered my climber to the ground, re-rigged the rope for abseil, and used it to get down myself, retrieving all my gear as I went. We're hoping to give this one another go next year.



Our final day saw us with lots of time to kill before our night flight home, so we did a very short and exposed, but easier ferrata - VF Piz Da Cir. Despite being easier than Delle Trincee and Piz Da Lech, I was more scared here because of the exposure. Here are some others on one of the more exposed sections (it's a popular VF for groups).



And here is me, giving it a go. Nice cable, friend. Don't go anywhere now!



The top has this steel cross, and about room for ten people. To get down you have to reverse your steps for the last few metres of ferrata, which leads to awkward situations, so we abseiled off instead.



This guy was up here with a bunch of children on a rope. He was lowering them down from the summit using the rope, and at a first glance looked like he knew what he was doing. However, he was using two screwgate carabiners - one as an anchor and a second as a belay to lower each child. The screwgates were not done up, and when his anchor 'biner opened, and I pointed it out to him, he shrugged and said that it didn't matter! In addition he wasn't using a belay device or even a munter hitch on his other screwgate to provide a belay - he was just holding the weight of each of each child directly. He was, in my opinion, a muppet who is going to kill someone if he keeps behaving like that :-(



We got off the mountain and still had some time left, so took this bizarre ... contraption up to the foot of the Marmolada glacier. Marmolada is the highest peak in the dolomites, and at the foot of the glacier is a mountain refuge serving beer and hot food (I love how the Italians do this - even many via ferratas have pubs at the end, at 9,000 feet).



Nice view while you dine too! Similar air pressure to a long haul flight, but much better food!



Outside, after lunch, we wandered over towards the foot of the glacier, past some interesting cairns!



It wasn't long before we encountered the ice.



We hiked a little way up the glacier, not too far because it gets dangerous quite quickly, and constantly falling over in the snow on a steep slope loses its humour value quite quickly! We had a rest before sliding back down (sometimes on our feet, often on our butts!)



These guys had come down from the summit, doing proper glacier hiking. There are crevasses and stuff up there, apparently, and it's really steep and dangerous. We just played about on the terminal moraine, below the serious stuff.



And then we got back onto the contraption of doom, jumped in the car, and drove back to the airport to face the horror of Ryanair once more.



Also posted at http://auntysarah.dreamwidth.org/245210.html - you can comment here or there.

Date: 2010-08-17 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zoefruitcake.livejournal.com
how utterly terrifying!
Ryanair, that is

Date: 2010-08-17 08:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
I know! Nearly cried several times because of their shit.

Am seriously considering driving the whole distance next time - it's nearly a thousand miles.

Date: 2010-08-17 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazyscot.livejournal.com
In case you haven't seen it, Fascinating Aida's comedy musical take on a certain airline: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAg0lUYHHFc

Date: 2010-08-18 08:58 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
Oh wow, that is so very, very true, and so utterly excellent!

Date: 2010-08-17 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nicollegurrl.livejournal.com
Jup, very nice!

I hope you tried some rösti!! :-)

Date: 2010-08-18 09:08 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
It's a Swiss dish, right?

We were in Italy, near Austria, so lots of German was spoken and the food was something of a fusion of hearty Alpine cuisine and more traditional Italian fare (think cured meats, dumplings and pasta).
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Date: 2010-08-18 09:08 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-08-17 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atreic.livejournal.com
Wow, that's cool.

Date: 2010-08-18 09:08 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
And a little bit scary!

Date: 2010-08-17 10:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] emperor
Looks great :)

I swore off Ryanair for life some years back now (at the same time as [livejournal.com profile] beckyc), and have yet to regret this decision.

Date: 2010-08-18 09:11 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
Yeah - will never travel with them again. They have got much worse since I travelled with them last - a deeply unpleasany and stressful experience, and it seems they've basically taken over Stansted, which used to be a nice airpot.

Next time we go there, I think it's going to be Lufthansa to Munich. At least the price they advertise is what you pay, and includes things like checked luggage (which is allowed to weigh more than 5 picograms), checking in, and a drink of water on the flight.

It's a shame that it's pretty much impossible to compare like with like before you fly, because knowing how much it *actually* cost us to fly with Ryanair, it turns out that flying with a full service airline, as long as you're willing to be a bit flexible, is no more expensive, and they're far less likely to treat you like shit.

Date: 2010-08-18 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
Alitalia aren't wholly bad either, but not so good since that buffoon Berlusconi insisted they route everything via Rome

Date: 2010-08-18 05:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
Yeah, I had a look and they weren't going anywhere convenient. The choice seems to be between BMI and Lufthansa if we want something cheap, or Eurostar and SNCF/DB if we want something civilised.

Date: 2010-08-17 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blazingrowan.livejournal.com
ZOMG.

Just ZOMG.

*holds tightly to the floor*

Date: 2010-08-18 09:12 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
I must admit to feeling similar sentiments at times over the weekend!

Date: 2010-08-17 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-local-echo.livejournal.com
Being on one in a thunderstorm is pretty suicidal.

This guy had a first-hand experience. Pretty freaky: http://duncanpierce.org/articles/Miscellaneous/Lightning%20in%20the%20Dolomites

Date: 2010-08-18 09:12 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
That does not sound like a pleasant experience. They're lucky to be alive after that.

Date: 2010-08-18 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gina-r-snape.livejournal.com
Right, so, just looking at the first four photographs and I'm completely blown away.

Those and the view from the top look, dare I say it, publishably gorgeous.

Thanks for sharing them!

Date: 2010-08-18 09:13 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
Thank you! Would you believe those four were all taken on an iPhone 3GS?

Date: 2010-08-18 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gina-r-snape.livejournal.com
You used an iPhone?! That's extraordinary!

I never get shots quite that clear and rich. Then again, I'm never in the mountains. :o)

Date: 2010-08-18 02:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
They're HDR shots, which adds to the richness (otherwise the clouds just blow out, or the landscape is dark)

Date: 2010-08-18 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gina-r-snape.livejournal.com
Oh I see. Did you photoshop them, or merge multiple photos, or do you have an app?

Date: 2010-08-18 03:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
I have an app - it's called ProHDR.

Date: 2010-08-18 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gina-r-snape.livejournal.com
:downloads:

btw, I hope you don't mind but I forwarded a link to this entry to two photography friends of mine.

Date: 2010-08-18 04:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
No problemo!

Date: 2010-08-18 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonspark.livejournal.com
So pretty. I've decided I need to (A) learn how to climb (B) go to the Alps. I love heights and I love mountains. That chairlift style in the last photo, it's interesting - never seen that before. Do skiiers use that or is it solely for hikers?

Date: 2010-08-18 09:14 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
That one is just for walkers, hence the odd design. The ski pistes on Marmolada are further round, where there are more normal chairlifts. There's also a set of 3 aerial tramways even further round which go to the top of the glacier.

Date: 2010-08-18 06:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notinventedhere.livejournal.com
Beautiful photos! Piz Boe through the clouds is absolutely gorgeous.

Date: 2010-08-18 09:14 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
Thanks! I do like the little HDR iPhone app I used to do that one.

Date: 2010-08-18 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notinventedhere.livejournal.com
*Jealous!*

:-)

Date: 2010-08-18 08:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com

I Dolomiti- bella bella Dolimiti. Sigh :o)

Gorgeous pics :o) The Carso has such amazing scenery.

We spent some time in and around Trento and Bolzano a few years back and have a hankering to go back.

We're off to that war front ourselves next month basing ourelves in Trieste then Udine. It's heady stuff for a couple of historians!

If you haven't read Mark Thompson's 'The white war' then I'd strongly recommend a look- I wrote a review on it a few weeks back. It's utterly heart rending stuff.

Date: 2010-08-18 09:15 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
We had a brief look at some of the war museum stuff, and of course you can't help but notice it wile doing the ferratas. We all think of the conditions in the trenches in Flanders being unbearable, but I can't begin to imagine what these poor people had to endure. It must have been beyond awful.

Date: 2010-08-18 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
Imagine the heavy artillery rounds creating instant limestone shrapnel from the Carso's fractured surface and you'll get some idea........Flanders was a cakewalk by comparison :o/

Date: 2010-08-18 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gina-r-snape.livejournal.com
Can I curl up inside your brain and just hang out like a cat during travels?

No, seriously.

Date: 2010-08-18 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
I promise to bring back lotsa piccies (hopefully, I'll have the Nikon DSLR I've been hankering for by then) this is new territory for me (for both of us) so I'm really looking forward to it :o)

Date: 2010-08-18 08:37 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] katsmeat.livejournal.com
not too far because it gets dangerous quite quickly

I did a galacier walk on the Comumbia Icefield in Canada. The New Zelealand guide describing in detail how well glacier cravasses and sink-holes are concealed under a fragile crust of ice, the long length of time it'd take to rescue somebody who fell down one, and the very short length of time it'd take to expire from hypothermia down there. It made quite an impression.

A few years ago, I remember they found the frozen bodies of some WW1 soldiers in an alpine glacier - I assume it was in that area. Some paleo-anthropologists were jumping up and down with excitement, going all awesime, we has extra, more-recent, specimens to compare Ötzi the Iceman with, which I found very distasteful.

Date: 2010-08-18 09:16 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
Almost certainly the same glacier. The Austrians built an entire military base inside that glacier - miles of tunnels with a chapel, a hospital, and so on.

Occasionally it spits out a body.

Date: 2010-08-18 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com

Distasteful and illegal- that would count as a war grave under the Geneva Conventions and the boys concerned should have been immediately reburied in a war cemetery with the usual military honours after a search for any surviving relatives. Both the Italians (and I have Italian ancestry myself) and the Austrians have somewhat complex views of WW1.

Poor Otzi doesn't have anyone left to stand up for him. We visited the museum in Bolzano three or four years back and I was horrified by how this amazing survivor had been stripped of his dignity by being displayed naked, which is not how he was found.

It was a huge letdown to an otherwise fascinating museum :o(

Date: 2010-08-18 09:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckyc.livejournal.com
Lovely pics!

Having been paragliding and had my very first experience of it be crashing on takeoff because the wind changed direction, I will NEVER EVER do a sport that involves running off a cliff and hoping that the wind doesn't change and stays strong enough. Doing the 24 hour flight back to the UK with the sprained ankle I got when we crashed was less than my favourite thing too.

Date: 2010-08-18 09:19 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
Have to agree with that sentiment. It looked really dangerous (she says, as she headed off to climb the via ferrata of doom!)

Date: 2010-08-18 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dave holland (from livejournal.com)
Fantastic photos. It looks terrifying.

As a non-climber I have a question which I hope won't be too dumb: in the photo after "Here's a group catching us up" both carabiners are attached to the line the same way round. When I did "Go Ape" (the closest I've come to your sort of dangerous hobby) the instructor was insistent that the two carabiners should attach to the line from opposite sides, to make it less likely that they would both come open through snagging on something. Is real climbing different to play-climbing? Ta!

Date: 2010-08-18 11:41 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
Hiya! It's a good question. It depends on the type of carabiner. With ordinary wire gate carabiners, all that needs to happen to open the gate is for pressure to be applied, so if you are using two of them to make some sort of attachment, you absolutely want them clipped in opposition to each other.

A common type of carabiner, used where things don't need to be clipped or unclipped under pressure is a screw gate or locking type. Those are mostly what we use in canyoneering (In a canyon I carry about 8-9 screw gates and 2 wire gates) and you screw the gate closed, so that pressure won't open it.

The type of carabiners you see in the picture are special via ferrata carabiners, which differ in two important respects from climbing carabiners. Firstly they are much stronger, to deal with potentially higher forces generated in a VF fall. Secondly, those particular ones need to be squeezed from both sides in order to open - they are effectively locking types which can be opened almost as fast as a wire gate. If the 'biner isn't squeezed from both sides simultaneously, it won't open.

It is possible you were using slightly different tyoes at Go Ape, which didn't have this particular feature, and so clipping in opposition would be more important.

Date: 2010-08-18 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dave holland (from livejournal.com)
Aha. Now I look closely I think I can see the extra mechanism for squeezing the non-opening side. Yes, the carabiners at Go Ape were simple-opening ones. Thanks!

Date: 2010-08-21 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainbowchazer.livejournal.com
I agree with you all the way about Ryanair, but I do think in your case it was worth it for the experience.

I found you via [livejournal.com profile] 7days7loves and decided to add you as you're a)geeky like me and b) local.

You and the others might also like to investigate my f-list, as there are several people on there with whom I believe you will all click. Look forward to seeing you around my blog soon.

(repost: laptop overheating and html fail = bad code, sorry)

Date: 2010-08-21 07:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
Hi, lovely to meet you.

Have found out that we can go with Lufthansa for no more money than Ryanair, but tbh, even if I couldn't in future I would either take the train (twice the price), or drive (cheaper, takes 15 hours to get there).

Date: 2010-08-21 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethybabes.livejournal.com
There are several of those photos where all I could think was, what the hell were you holding onto to take the picture!

If I were you I'd would have been clinging on for dear life, never mind trying to work a zoom lens lol

Date: 2010-08-21 07:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
Most of the "action" ones are iPhone shots, and I was most concerned about dropping the iPhone!
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