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Feeling so very disappointed right now.

Until feminism as a movement stops being mainly an exercise in navel-gazing for middle-class, educated, white cissexual women, until those professing to be feminists stop holding up bigots like Raymond, Greer and Bindel as icons because they're getting damp over some paragraph they once wrote, until the movement at large takes itself seriously enough to apply its supposed principles to cover all women, and all cases where the powerful oppress the powerless, regardless of sex, gender, race, education, class, income, etc., until someone can make a post about trans people having sex on a supposed feminist discussion board without commenters claiming that a trans person (and you know they mean trans woman) having sex without disclosing their medical history is non-consensual sex (i.e. rape) which should be prosecuted, and having half the people in the discussion sharing a similar sentiment...

...until then, I'm going to proclaim loudly and clearly, "I'm not with them."

By the way, did you know that teh tranz is just like an STD? You can probably even catch it from a snog!

(Also, I think that interpreting "the emotional strain caused by the non disclosure is actionable, and so should it be when one hides the fact of them being trans" as "it's OK to kill trans women after fucking them" is probably not that much of a stretch, as you know, that does actually happen quite a lot).

Originally posted at http://auntysarah.dreamwidth.org/214250.html - you can comment here or there.

Date: 2009-11-05 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valeriekeefe.livejournal.com
Oh, I've replied to a cis feminist who thought trans women should be asking cis permission to transition. (Of course, we effectively do in most of the world, but that's beside the point.) There is no end of trans misogyny dressed up as misandry dressed up as gender liberation to be found in feminist circles, even among really awesome trans allies. Had an acquaintance who's really activist tell me that she thought it was worse for trans masculine trans people because they faced male and cis privilege, for almost a second until I gently differed and she realized what had been said and backed away from that rad fem trope in a second.

Sarah, you are not alone in your frustration, and if I have time, I shall wade into this river of feminist fail and do battle. I must. For someone is being wrong on the internet.

Date: 2009-11-06 10:50 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com
Oh, I've replied to a cis feminist who thought trans women should be asking cis permission to transition. (Of course, we effectively do in most of the world, but that's beside the point.)

Well quite.

Date: 2009-11-07 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheshire-bitten.livejournal.com
Well at least in my state until recently you pretty much had to see a cis female gatekeeper

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