Well you know, "a man was on our side..." already would be a popularly-used form of that argument, if misandry were a serious (read: systemic) problem.
But that's just the thing--it's not. And that's something getting lost in all of these discussions. It's why these discussions started. It's been the point of most of these things being said by people who you're categorizing as divisive trans women turning it into an "us" and "them" issue when all we'd wanted was to have this acknowledged.
And it's not an "us" and "them" issue. It's a "trans men experience transphobia, and they also have male privilege" issue, it's a "trans women face the intersecting oppressions of being trans and being women" issue, and it's the fact that this is something which is being ignored or flat out denied that is the root of this whole conflict, that is the context being left out of your post.
I don't want to have this whole argument again, but i do wish that this weren't something that was getting left out and ignored here, all over again.
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But that's just the thing--it's not. And that's something getting lost in all of these discussions. It's why these discussions started. It's been the point of most of these things being said by people who you're categorizing as divisive trans women turning it into an "us" and "them" issue when all we'd wanted was to have this acknowledged.
And it's not an "us" and "them" issue. It's a "trans men experience transphobia, and they also have male privilege" issue, it's a "trans women face the intersecting oppressions of being trans and being women" issue, and it's the fact that this is something which is being ignored or flat out denied that is the root of this whole conflict, that is the context being left out of your post.
I don't want to have this whole argument again, but i do wish that this weren't something that was getting left out and ignored here, all over again.